Our buddy Charlie catches up with us about becoming a full time Head Coach at USD, working with Perry Baker and American Youth Rugby, Post Covid Rugby outlooks, Super Rugby’s return to New Zealand and how in the hell I’m going to make it to the Lions Tour of South Africa in 2021

Charlie grew up in the farm land outside of Cape Town, SA where he eventually played in the Natal Sharks set up. His Pro rugby took him to Scotland and eventually Southern California where I would compete against him and eventually with him at San Diego Pro - The Breakers and then coaching together at Rugby Academies, Team Trainings and Camps.